Soul Touched by Dogs

Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs
Podcast, the show for dog lovers who

see dogs not as toys or tools, but
wise souls worth our respect and care.

I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host.

I talk to poor some humans, people who
do great work for dogs and their people.

So come and join us for
today's conversation.

Anke: Hello and welcome, Lisa.

I'm super excited to have you here.

Lisa: Oh, I'm really
happy to be here as well.

Thanks for

Anke: having me on.

Oh, I, I just love your accent, so I
can't, I can't wait to make you talk.

So let's just start out, let's just
dive right in, you know, let people

know where in this lovely world based
and what's your business with dogs.

Lisa: Yeah, so I'm based in Ireland.

I live in a place called Wicklow in the
Wicklow Mountains, uh, on a horse farm.

Uh, so I'm nice and connected to nature,
and there's dogs and deers and all sorts.

Um, and the, the work that I
do with dogs is I work as an

animal healer and communicator.

So in a nutshell.

What I do is if a, if a dog has,
uh, emotional imbalances or physical

imbalances, um, spiritual imbalances, uh,
I can use different botanicals, uh, that

the animal would self-select in order
to bring themselves back into balance.

So I'm working with skin issues, you
know, gut issues, all the usual kind

of stuff, and anxiety reactivity,
uh, on the lead and all this.

All this good stuff that
goes on with the doggies.

Um, and you know, by also I suppose
having the animal communication side

to it as well, it adds in a real
profound level of, of understanding

where the animals, the dogs will,
will select their own botanicals.

They'll tell me the direction to take,
they'll tell me what their meridians

are outta balance, they'll tell me what.

Their guardians need in order to bring
themselves back into balance because I

really look at both ends of the lead.

You know, I think that's
really, really important.

Um, and especially with dogs, I
suppose that are, are quite reactive,

quite fearful, quite nervous.

Um, it's always really interesting
to dig into that and see if there's

a mirror going on with the person.

So it's a very, very deep
process, um, that people can

go on with me if they want to.

Anke: Wow, that is fascinating.

Like, you know what really stuck with me
is like, oh, they choose their botanicals.

And that's so true.

You know, like, I mean, I've seen, I've
seen them, you know, my dogs when when

you kind of like the stomach's a little
bit like they see, I often thought like,

how do they know which plant to pick?

Right?

So they're not gonna just grab any plant.

So that's fascinating.

Now, I'm obviously curious how you
discovered this path for yourself.

Like when did you notice that?

Was So you wanted to do, like, were you
always sort of intuitive that you could

kind of feel tune into or something
you, and then you know, all the.

Especially the botanical stuff, like
how the heck did you get into that?

Lisa: Yeah.

So since I was a little girl, um,
I, I wanted to be a vet and when

I was a toddler the first time
mom brought me into a butcher's, I

screamed and demanded to, to leave.

All right?

So I always said I wanna be vegetarian.

Like, you know, as soon as I realized
it was a thing, as I got a bit

older and I became vegetarian at 12,
then, um, so I just had this real.

Compassion for animals.

As a young girl, I would bring home
sick animals, like sick seagulls.

Sick pigeons.

I'd find kittens here and you know,
I was really, really locked into the

animals and, and what I noticed is from
a young age as well, that my friends,

animals in their houses and stuff,
say there was a a, an animal that

didn't like to be picked up, I would
just automatically go over and pick.

The animal up and they'd snuggle and
they'd be like, oh my God, that cat

won't let anyone, you know, touch them.

And I'm like, yo.

Um, so I had dogs all
my life as well, and.

Eventually I went and worked in a
vet's for two years, um, between the

age of 16 and 18, just to really get
a feel for that world and surgery and

everything that I used to work in.

Um, and you know, I, I then,
you know, got into vet.

School.

Uh, but I decided not to do it.

I did a science degree, uh, and
that helped me get into vet school.

But then I, I, I backtracked in the
end because the fees were astronomical.

And I just thought to myself, do I
wanna get collared with this debt?

But I, I, I feel that there
was something deeper inside me

probably, that I didn't realize was
guiding me down a different path.

Um, so I, I, uh, I worked in the
pharmaceutical industry for about

seven years, which gave me a
real understanding of the drugs.

Which is really, really valuable now,
uh, for working with all animals.

Um, and then I lost the fear of all
the white coats 'cause I was working

with doctors all day, every day.

Um, and then I started to meditate.

And when I started to meditate I
realized it was time to, to jump ship.

And then I started to do deep, deep
practices over many years and I woke up.

Even more this intuition that
was always in me for animals.

And I started then to really
understand that I could hear them

on a much more profound level and
pick up what's going on for them.

And I did a professional training
then in, uh, animal communication

over a period of two years.

Um, and then I started
to study botanicals.

Okay.

'cause I realized when I was doing
the animal communication on its own.

It wasn't enough.

The animals are saying This is wrong.

And I'm like, well, well now
I wanna help you with that.

Uh, so that's where
the botanicals came in.

So I studied flower essences and then I
studied, um, zoo pharmac cocy, which is

animals that know how to self-medicate,
and that's where I, I brought in herbs

and diluted essential oils, hydrosols,
and yeah, lots of different things.

So.

So now I work remotely.

I do it all remotely.

So I've got animal clients all over
the world and it's, yeah, it's been a

profound journey and, and I, it's kind
of circled back really because now I'm at

a place in my career where I collaborate
with holistic vets, both in the United.

States and in Ireland all the time.

My, a lot of my closest
friends are holistic vets.

We just got to know each
other to the animals.

So now I, I feel like where they end,
I begin and where I end, they begin.

So it becomes this.

Some animals need both.

You know, you've got a
very seriously sick animal.

Um, it just becomes this fusion, you
know, where the sum is, is greater.

The hole is greater than some
of the parts as they say.

And.

It's been, it's been an amazing
journey and it's just getting deeper.

Yeah, that

Anke: sounds, that sounds wonderful.

And I love the depth of it and
the compassion in it and Yeah.

And, and there is also so much to
learn, so I can totally see, I mean,

I've had like holistic bets on the
show and you know, it's like, yeah,

there is so much to learn, like
nobody can do all of it, right.

So.

Exactly makes, that makes perfect sense.

So what do clients, is there something
specific that you find, uh, like

patterns where you think like, this
is what people seek you out for

Lisa: more

Anke: than others?

Lisa: So, yeah, absolutely.

Um, I, I end up, I suppose, working with
a lot of, um, animals, dogs that are, you

know, really outta balance emotionally.

I, I, I feel like I want, I feel like
I need to talk about that, that side.

Like I work in so many different
ways, but that seems to be

coming true today, where, um.

You know, we have a
reactive dog, for example.

Uh, or just not even the word
reactive, just an outta balance

dog, a misunderstood dog.

And sometimes, um, what can happen
is we, we may use a cookie cutter

approach, um, and try and address issues
with animals to, to a certain funnel.

And what I, what I recognize is
that one of the things that I apply

in my work, um, is five elements.

Chinese Medicine.

And I, uh, that, that teaches you
how there's different characteristic,

different personality types.

It's not set in stone.

There's, it's a very, very
deep ancient practice.

But I wanna give you an example
of, of one animal I, one dog that I

was working on yesterday that, um.

From the get go out of the litter, it,
it was a, it was a good breeder, right?

But outta the litter, um, the
dogs were being trained to see if

they could be te therapy animals.

And this little darling, uh, was, was
put into his first home and he became so

scared and so frightened he was sent back.

Unsuitable, really.

And he really lost his
nerve at that point.

And then he, he ended up finding
a very, very, very loving family.

Uh, but he was a very nervous, uh, dog
and on the lead, hard to manage, uh,

would get triggered by different things.

Sounds, fireworks, bicycles,
skateboards, male dogs, all,

you know, these kind of things.

And.

Um, they, they, they worked on 'em with
all their love in their hearts, um, over

about four year period trying to train
the dog and expose him to the triggers.

And, you know, they're so courageous.

They realize then that this wasn't
working and, and straight away for me.

When I heard his story and when I
went deeper into his case, I could

see what we call, he is what we call
a water element in Chinese medicine,

a water element constitution.

So these animals are naturally nervous.

Uh, they're key organs are
the kidneys and the bladder.

So they'll usually have issues in those
areas and, and they're the organs of fear.

And these are the animals that,
because the kidneys rule the health

of the ears, they're, they can be
highly reactive to noises, right?

So any of your animals at this time
of year, I dunno when this is gonna be

published, but it's Halloween, right?

So there's so many fireworks going off.

So these fearful animals that are
sensitive to noises would be the

ones triggered the most by all
those things that dog was triggered.

Um, so he needed internal healing.

Right internal work to rebalance him,
to make him more resilient and often

a bit of a softer approach as well.

'cause he is a city dog, so they
bring him to the country for walks

and so it's about really understanding
who the dog is as an individual.

That's how I work.

I try and see who they are now, who
they were before and who do we see they

become because water elements are also.

Very, uh, adventurous, very driven.

When they're balanced, they're very calm,
peaceful, and they've got a lot of wisdom.

The wisdom comes from that kidney energy.

So it's about helping the animal, the
dog, transform into their better selves.

Um, so yeah, that's,

Anke: I love that.

I like, I'm nodding along here
because, um, you know, I've had

a guest once who she was talking
about the five Chinese elements.

Mm-hmm.

And so she was sort of cutting
it out and I'm like, yeah.

My little Kay who passed last year,
he was a water dog classic case,

like totally classic case, you
know, like super noise sensitive.

And he did really well when I moved to
this quieter environment, you know, out of

a city has where I thought a poor soul had
always information overload 24 7, right?

And so when, when I brought
him into this quieter space,

he was a whole different dog.

You know, and that whole wisdom came out
and, you know, and then all of a sudden

he wasn't pulling on the lead and he
was friendly with other dogs and, you

know, and I didn't train anything, right.

So I just allowed him to, you know,
to settle, to calm and, and have

that environment that suited him.

So I like, I love that you brought just
out of all the different types, you

know, that that was the example because.

I think the thing is, I think
especially those dogs, they can easily

be seen as a difficult dog, right?

Yeah.

Because if you don't know
what's underneath, it's um,

it's easy to misunderstand.

So how would people, like, what
is it that people come to you for?

'cause like, you know that Yeah,
that dog's just misunderstood.

That's not usually what
people reach out for.

Is it when they've tried all kind
of things and nothing's worked?

Or, or what are sort of
the, the, what are they?

Saying to you that they want

Lisa: Yeah, you're, you're right.

It's usually, you know, people find me
when they've tried all the usual avenues,

unless they know me, or, or unless
they're really holistically minded and

they fir, you know, um, or they've been
recommended by word of mouth as well.

But usually it's.

It's, they've tried all the usual
avenues and, and it just hasn't worked.

It's just come, it's just come into kind
of like a bit of, a bit of a cul-de-sac.

And then you see, and, and
I'm talking about physical or

emotional or mental stuff here.

Right?

And, and the challenge that
that gives me then is that.

People then think, well,
I'll just try this.

Uh, you know, uh, and then I, but
the thing about it is what I say to

people is like, okay, you've tried
this, that, and, and the other, but

have you asked the dog, have you asked
the dog what it is they need to heal?

And have you looked at.

What is the dog possibly mirroring to you?

If we look at ourselves and have
that level of cur courage for

self-reflection, and we're willing
to look at our imbalances and take

action on them, it frees the animal,
the dog up from mirroring them, us.

They do it to all of us, like, um,
and, and then you can get results

where results were not possible before.

So I, I do feel that there's a
divine timing to when people find me.

Uh, and, and I know that
the animals know who I am.

They know what I can do.

Uh, they know what skills I have.

So they, they, it's funny, they,
they kind of like, I, I, I joke

they become a bit like my sales rep.

Like say for example, I'm
on a discovery call, right?

And the person's there, and the
dog's there, and sure, like, you

know, I remember there was one
little doggy, a little dash hound.

And this dog, you had a lot of issues
going on behaviorally as well, and in

the call the dog climbs up into the
arms of the man and just snuggles in.

When I was talking about the human to
animal mirroring and they were like,

you know, he never ever does this.

And I'm like, yeah, they always
do something on the discovery

call out of behavior to show.

Listen to Lisa.

Anke: Oh, I love that.

Yeah.

So you've got it's amazing little
army of reps running around.

Yeah,

Lisa: I totally do.

Like,

Anke: oh, that is funny.

Yeah.

So what's like, do you have an example?

You know, because, um, the
whole, like, we all know how much

in tune our dogs are with us.

Like we don't often kind of know
how this works both ways, right?

Mm-hmm.

Do you have an example of, you know,
where like a kind of a trait or an

imbalance was mirrored and one once
that kind of, once you could see that

through, they could see through that.

Like things all, like what, what
would be an example of something

your dog could mirror and take on?

Hmm.

Um.

Lisa: So I, I wanna talk about grief.

Um, I think there's a, there's a lot
of grief in the world at this point in

time and a lot of unresolved grief, um,
especially after what the world went

through during the, the whole lockdown
thing and the whole pandemic thing.

I think there's a lot of
unresolved stuff there.

And there's this new terminology,
it's called pandemic puppies.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Which, which, you know, it's like.

For me that the animals that
were born at that time literally

mirrored our psychosis at that time.

Okay.

And whichever side of the fence
you were on of that conversation.

It's still the same to me.

Like everybody was nervous.

They were just expressing their
nervousness in a different way.

Um, and you know, these pandemic
puppies that came along, then a lot of

them have massive behavioral issues.

And one of my friends is, um.

Um, a doggy minder and, uh,
so she can see the difference.

You know, she sees it on mass.

It's, it's really, it's like, it's
like a, an open experiment in a way.

The conversations we have around that.

Um, so often when I, when people
approach me to work with their

dogs around that, um, that issue.

I'll say to them, like, how were
you during the time of the pandemic?

Like, what was going on in your mind?

And, and I, um, one example, one really
clear example is when it all, before it

all kicked off, I'd say on average I would
do a reading for a reactive dog on the

lead maybe once every two weeks, right?

More or less.

Um, and then as you're in Spain, um,
and then, um, what happened then was

when, when that pandemic kicked in,
I was doing an average three a week.

Alright.

And that's when I really, really,
really had to double down on the human

to animal mirror in which I just love.

Um, and I, I had open frank conversations.

It was usually women.

Um, and I'm saying, are
you, are you afraid?

Are you afraid when
you're walking the dog?

Are you afraid walking
alone in wooded areas are.

If you've your dog's reacting
to men, are you afraid of men?

Has something happened to you
in the past where there's sub

something subconsciously going on?

Um, and nine times outta 10, the, the
women are so brave and, and they'll

face it, you know, and we'll, we'll then
the dog then selects flower essences,

not only for themselves, but also ones,
they make up ones for their person.

Um, and the, the accuracy of
that mix, when I share it with

the people, they're just like.

How does the dog know the nuances of my
thought processes, my emotion processes?

I'm like, well, they're picking it
up every, every second of every day.

They're reading you like a book.

So then you have this kind of,
this healing feedback loop.

Instead of the, the fear, you switch
it into a healing feedback loop.

The the dog knows the healing is going
back up the lead, and then they start

to relax and then they start to, you
know, walks start to become easier.

The women.

You know, they feel more
comfortable in their own skin.

So that's a massive, massive theme
I've seen over the years that really,

really escalated at that time.

So yeah,

Anke: that makes so much sense.

You know?

Yeah.

It's, it's also something that's kind
of so visible, like that nervousness

and Yeah, that's, I'm still tagged,
totally fascinated by, you know, how

the dogs, I mean, you, I could even.

Well, you kind of see that they, when
they're out and they, you know, like

that they pick that they know what
plants to pick, but I had no idea

that they would even know how to pick
the right thing for their person.

Lisa: Mm.

Well, yeah, that's
something I've developed.

Um, you know, 'cause when I, when
I was trained in the Zoo Cog, it

was really just about the animals
self-selecting for themselves.

Um, but then I just went, I
just went on a roll with it and

I just said, let me try this.

I've studied like different methods
of, of, um, selecting flower essences

in a specific way that actually
tells a very clear emotional picture.

Um, it's something I learned from a
gentleman called Tony Pinko, who works

at Ainsworth Homeopathic Pharmacy
in London, giving him a shout out

'cause he's absolutely amazing.

Um, and he te he teaches that for
people to self-select for themselves.

But I just, I just went and I just
said, I'm gonna go on a roll with

this and I'm gonna ask the animals
to do it for their, for their person.

Um, and sometimes they'll
share it with the person.

They'll share the essence,
mix with the person.

Sometimes they'll just have
it for themselves and then a

separate one for their person.

And sometimes they'll ask, they'll
also do one for the entire family.

If there's something going on in
the household where you do what

we call the bow method where.

You put the flower essences mixed at
the animal, the dog is selected in

different bowls around the house, and
it absorbs all the emotions into the

bowl, and then you tip it into the
earth, you know, and it's just, you

can absolutely transform households
because the dog knows everything.

I

Anke: know.

It's fascinating.

So, so what does, like, how
does one have to picture that?

So like, how does the dog.

Choose, like, do you kind of like Yeah.

Have a bunch of bowls and they kind of
stick their nose into one that they like?

Or like what the, what
does choosing look like?

Lisa: Yeah, sure.

That's a really good question.

So I work remotely, right?

So I work from photographs.

Um, so I'll have photos of the dog.

So what I do is I have, I have
a pendulum and then I have list.

That I've created of the
different essences, right?

And I, I, I say to the dog,
basically, you take over the pendulum.

Um, and I have enough stillness in
myself at this point in my life to trust.

You know, um, and, and then, so then
they'll just go, beep, beep, beep,

you know, and they'll pick, they'll,
first of all, they'll pick the process

we're going to use, and then when
they pick the process, then we go

to the list in the way that it needs
to be gone to, or a specific list.

And then I just make up, make it up, and
I, I post it to people, but I also send

them a little paragraph and I'm saying,
okay, so they selected this essence

because this is probably going on.

Because actually you might be
thinking this, which may lead to this.

So that.

Is what blows people's minds.

They're like, that's what I've been
thinking the last, you know, month

and I can't get outta my head.

And I'm like, yeah, the dog knows.

I love that.

I love because I think

Anke: it's, it's, we
so often underestimate.

Dogs, right?

Yeah.

I think that's like, for me, that's
one of the reason I even started this.

'cause I always feel, you know, just
looking at them as a toy for the, for

the kids and a tool to find people
or like support, you know, it's like

looking at them as toys or tools
is just not giving them justice.

You know, like there's so much more that
they, they have going for them, you know?

Oh, I, and it doesn't always have to
be for the benefit of a person, right?

Mm-hmm.

Lisa: Yeah, because they, they're,
they're their own sentient beings.

They have their own life purpose.

They have their own soul wishes.

And, you know, it's like, so how,

Anke: in your case.

You know, like, um, what does, like how
do you, when, you know, when, when you

communicate, when you kind of tune into to
a dog or animal, like for you personally,

how do you receive the message?

Because I know that like sometimes
people will feel it in their bodies,

sometimes hear people things, see things
like, how does it show up for you?

Lisa: For me, mostly I'm Claire
audience, so I hear their voices.

Mm-hmm.

Um, they, they sometimes will flash, uh,
DVDs into my mind if they want me to see

something that's been going on for them.

Um, I can, if I look at their
photo, I can feel their sadness.

I can feel their fear,
what, whatever it is.

So there's a combination of different
things that come true for me and.

The type of animal communication
that has always just been my go-to.

It's not something that I ask, or
I, I directed it towards is really

like it's real soul level stuff.

Like, it's real profound.

So I do individual animal
communication sessions and, and

it's like people within the first
five minutes are usually in tears.

Um, because the, the first thing
we start off with is what are the

three key things your dog wants you
to know now for you as a person?

Um, and the accuracy of that.

Like, because it just, it just
taps into the heart energy

and they're like, oh my God.

You know, again, it's one of
those moments, how does the dog

know that that's going on for me?

So real life shifts life.

Stuff.

And then when we go to the, uh,
to the dog and I say, well, what

do you want outta this session?

What do you need?

And they might say, oh, my hips are bad.

Or, you know, my tooth is bad.

One dog, he recently had a bad
tooth, but he can't go to the, to

the vet 'cause he gets really scared.

And, and now they're like, then
they brought him to the vet and

sure enough he has a rotten tooth.

So, you know, that kind
of stuff will come true.

Um.

But yeah, it'll come to, I, I usually
write furiously, I write everything

down furiously when I'm doing that work,
because when I hear it, it, it's not mine.

It's channeling to me.

So I write it down because I'll
forget, like, people go, do you

remember in the last session?

I'm like, don't ask me to remember.

It's not my information, you know.

Yeah,

Anke: I mean, that,
that is so that's funny.

And it's like I've experienced that, um,
especially when I first did coach training

and the type of coach training I did
was like very spiritual, like very deep.

And it's almost like the more in
the moment, the more present I am,

the more connected I feel like.

Don't ask me.

I, I don't dunno what we talked about.

Yeah.

Like, I literally dunno.

Right.

So yeah, I kind of like it, it makes
sense to me, but it is kind of weird.

It's kind of can freak
you out a little bit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So do you work like you work with dogs?

What, you know, other animals?

Like what, what other animals are?

Maybe horses.

I mean, they are like, really, you know?

Yeah.

So what's your, what are
the kind of animals you work

with and who's your favorite?

Lisa: Yeah.

So I work

Anke: have to say dog.

Lisa: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I, I work, I, I work with cats and
dogs at the moment, obviously for the

animal communication, like in terms
of physical and emotional healing.

I work mostly with cats and dogs 'cause
that's what most people come to me for.

Um, I did do an animal
communication session.

Recently with some ravens, some old
long-term clients that are two ravens

of mine that live in, in the state.

So the animal communication, I
do that with any kind of animal.

But then the deeper healing stuff with
the botanicals is usually dogs and cats.

Um, I have a large body of experience of
working with horses, um, and going down to

the stables and working with a range of.

Physical stuff going on.

I absolutely love horses
and emotional stuff as well.

Um, but it's just not, it's not
a focus for me at the moment.

At the moment it's the dogs and the cats.

'cause I'm doing most of my work remotely.

Whereas I just feel with horses you
really need to show up in the stables.

There's something about it, you know?

Um, and yeah, so that's who I work with.

Right.

I was just

Anke: thinking like, it's a bit hard
to imagine the, also the zoom call.

Lisa: Yeah, exactly.

Anke: I mean, I know, I know when you work
the photos, but I mean that image just.

Popped to mind.

I'm like, that's, yeah.

I have

Lisa: done it though.

I have done it, and I, I've done
it a few times and I'll say it's

hard because they're, they're out
in the stables and chances are it's

a rural setting, this bad signal.

Right.

You know, and you're just
like, oh, this isn't working.

Whereas I just, I just think
there's something about them.

You need to show up, you know?

I absolutely love them.

So, which is my favorite.

I think like, I, I genuinely
think I, it's a tie between cats

and horses and then the doggies.

I love doggies too.

Like so, but it's, you know, if
you wanna pick winners, for me

it's probably cats and horses.

I love, if I'm being honest.

Anke: Well, I mean, no, no, that's
obviously like, I don't want you to say

dog just because we're in a dog show.

Yes,

Lisa: exactly.

I want

Anke: you, I know what you
really feel, so Definitely.

So where can people find out more
and book you and how does that work?

And you know, and you also
have a gift that I know of.

Lisa: Yeah.

Um, so, so the, the, the gift
that I have for everybody is,

it's a beautiful meditation.

Um, a link to the meditation
where you can download and

listen to a healing meditation.

Uh, it's a meditation that helps you
really open up your heart energy to

connect in with your animal family.

And when you do animal communication,
it's true heart to heart connection.

Okay?

The true mind and.

So this meditation is designed where
you can connect with any animal,

whether they're beside you, uh, to bring
healing to them and healing for you.

Or if your animal fam your animal
friend is separated from you for any

reason, maybe they're in the vets
or you're traveling, or things like

that, or you're grieving the loss of
an animal that you really, really.

And, and you want to feel
their energy signature.

This meditation will bring in their energy
and it feels like you've just seen them.

So it's a real heart hug.

It's just gorgeous.

It's my most popular meditation,
so that's why I just give it out.

I have to put it out into the world,
and it's suitable for beginners.

It's fully guided with some beautiful
music, and so I'd love people to,

to feel and see how your animal
responds when you listen to it.

Yeah, they do all sorts of stuff
like and or to, to kind of give you.

Uh, clarity and verification that
this, this stuff is real, you know?

Um, and then I suppose the next step
then, if people want to work with me

to dip their toe in even more, um,
would be maybe to try one of my, uh,

individual animal communication sessions.

Um, and they're done remotely, um,
over Zoom, um, uh, horses included.

Um, and yeah, and we can have
some fun with that as well.

Um, and then if your animal, though,
is your cat or dog is, has got, you

know, serious emotional challenges
and balances, physical stuff going

on, then I offer six month programs.

Happy Cat, happy you.

And happy dog.

Happy you.

And that's where we bring in all
the botanical work, all the them

healing you, you healing them.

And we use all the Chinese medicine
and we go deep, um, and we get answers.

Yeah.

Anke: Sounds fabulous.

Yeah.

I can't wait to try that meditations.

I'm gonna, yeah.

Yeah.

So that myself.

Yeah.

Well, thank you so much.

This was really, really insightful.

And um, yeah, and I just.

I can totally see like that meditation,
like if your voice is there,

you've got such a soothing voice.

Oh

Lisa: yeah.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

Yeah.

People have said that to me before and,
and what's really interesting is when

I work with an animal and if they're,
if, if their guardians are playing.

My, one of my TikTok videos or
one of my meditations, the animal

comes straight up to the screen.

Yeah, they just, they, they know
my, my voice a mile away now.

But yeah, so I also forgot to
mention my website, uh, is, is,

yeah, that's probably key, isn't it?

That would help.

Yeah.

Um, my website is animal healing, ie.

So that's really easy to remember.

So yeah.

Awesome.

Come, come on out.

Well,

Anke: thank you so much and
um, yeah, absolute delight.

And I hope to have you back someday.

Lisa: Yeah, I'd love to come back.

Thank you for having me, and thank
you to everyone who's listening.

Thank

Anke: you.

Thanks so much for listening.

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